Rape: When someone who is capable of giving consent refuses to give it.
Child Rape: When that someone is too young to give consent.
Beastiality Rape: When the victim is an animal of another species which, obviously, cannot give consent.
By this criteria, there is NOTHING immoral about gay sex and claiming that "next thing you know, people will be marrying their pets" is ridiculous.Where sex is concerned, should conservatives learn that CONSENT is the only moral issue?I've always felt this way as well. I consider myself very sexually liberated, and I really fail to see how sex itself is morally wrong. If two consenting people decide to have sex, fine. Big deal. Myself, I have slept with many people (of both sexes) and I find it really silly that people would call me a sIut or a whore. As long as consenting people are enjoying themselves, it's nobody's business what they are doing.
Since I am not religious, I don't believe in the "moral notions" of sexuality being something that is wrong.Where sex is concerned, should conservatives learn that CONSENT is the only moral issue?
In your book maybe, not in mine. Thanks for allowing me my opinion.Where sex is concerned, should conservatives learn that CONSENT is the only moral issue?wow you sure have alot of gay issues
No, because consent is not the only issue. Just ask Mrs. Sanford.Where sex is concerned, should conservatives learn that CONSENT is the only moral issue?You forgot one:
Cheating: When the perpetrator is in a committed relationship with someone who did not consent to the perpetrator's affair.Where sex is concerned, should conservatives learn that CONSENT is the only moral issue?
Ditto.
They are using the same logic to oppose gay marriage as they did to oppose interracial marriage. It's time they realize that marriage was around before Christianity was and that marriage is not defined as "a man and woman who will reproduce". If it were than atheists and infertile couples would not be allowed to marry.
i don't think it is immoral, just a bit deviant.Where sex is concerned, should conservatives learn that CONSENT is the only moral issue?
There could be arguments saying that an animal can consent. I've heard those kind of things before.
Yes, i totally agree with your statement.
It is business of anybody what goes on in the bedroom of two consenting adults.
So having sex with your own sister isnt wrong either?
Almost all 'slippery slope' arguments are stupid. We do write laws so that the slip doesn't happen, that's the purpose of written law.
Here is a thought though, law isn't necessarily the entire body of morals, its just the part of morality we legally enforce for the protection of the weaker party.
I don't think there is anything inherently immoral about homosexuality.
I don't think there should be laws against it.
But the morality of some religions says that it is, so they can remove a person from their flock if that's what they need to do, their morality says its sin, sin isn't necessarily law for the rest of the country to follow.
I'm not sure what your point is here but you sure seem to know a lot about what constitutes consent. Kind of creepy.
What if the dog can bark once for yes and twice for no is that consent?
No, it is not! Certainly consent is very important, but having high morals in all aspect of life is also very important. Without morals, then just about anything goes. It is high morals that keep us out of trouble and that certainly included sex. For me having a child without being married is still really wrong. Wrong for the child and unfair for the child. When you do not have morals, children suffer.
Its wrong when you consent with someone other than your spouse.
I have to agree that it is NOT the only moral issue.
What of those people who believe they are in a monogamous relationship, and end up being lied to by their partner. There are too many STD's out there for people to feel that consent should be the only issue, honesty with your partner(s) is another moral issue that is extremely important. Especially with the fact that there are STD's that can actually kill you.
Why are gays and other practitioners of sexual deviancy so bent on getting everyone to say that it's ok? Why should someone have to start calling what they know to be wrong, right? So that they don't make anyone mad?
People have the freedom to do what they like, but nobody has to start calling it a good thing if they don't want to. The constitution allows you to live your life, but there is no amendment that says others have to like or condone the way you live it.
This criteria is your criteria. Each person may have a different view of morality. Morals are created and defined by one's own conscience as well as society, philosophy, and religion. So to you consent may be the only issue. To others there may be other factors. Personally I am conservative and could care less what people do in their own bedroom. It is not up to me to judge another person. If you are referring to the gay marriage issue I am okay with it as long as it does not force churches to marry homosexuals if they feel it is improper and that the issue is decided by the states as it is a state issue. By the way do you know that Obama is against gay marriage?
So you're saying polygamy is OK?
Conservatives hide behind morality when it comes to sex, yet they, at least many conservative politicians are some of the most immoral people when it comes to sex. Conservative politicians have been caught in in more sexual scandals than anyone. The joke is they have served on many committees about ethics and morality. The Newt was having an affair when he was impeaching Clinton. Another was soliciting gay sex in an airport bathroom. Another was sending Congressional Pages sexually suggestive e-mails. Many have confessed to having affairs with other women. Conservatives pretend to live by how moral they are and all the ethics they have, while the truth is they have none. The party of hypocrisy, lies manipulation and misrepresentation.
Government needs to stay out of the bedroom, PERIOD.
Invisible %26gt;%26gt; If it really floats your boat, have fun with it. But don't complain when the kids turn out severely messed up.
Supercel Says Alan Keyes in 2012 %26gt;%26gt; If it really floats your boat, have fun with it. But don't complain when the family reunions get awkward.
What about incest? What if you have two consenting adults, that are brothers? Or sisters? Or mother and a daughter, or mother and son?
They both consent!
So it's perfectly moral for a man to cheat on his wife with a woman with HIV and go home and have sex with his wife without telling her?
Think about WHY gays want marriage- it's all about benefits for the partner. Is it moral for gay men to raise a child- instead of 2 people of the opposite sex modeling gender roles? It's different when kids are involved.
Marriage is a religious term, anyway, so when people apply for marriage licenses, it should be called something else. What's the problem with nomenclature when they have all the same rights under Civil Unions? It's called being specific.
You're taking to the wrong group.
Liberals promote and defend people for ALL of the above. They gave a standing ovation to a guy for refusing to accept any sanction for drugging and @ssraping MINORS, a charge that was never so much as disputed.
There is no reasonable standard of consent obtainable from someone with a mental pathology. According to the very people responsible for getting homosexuality de-listed as such, it IS in fact. They were on the radio declaring their pride in accomplishing their goal despite ALL of the evidence and science being against them.
I see nothing wrong with this argument. As long as it's consenting between two adults, there is no problem. If the conservatives want to preach about keeping the government out of our private lives, the least they can do is sell what they preach.
Consent is the only LEGAL issue!
If consent was the only MORAL issue, then if your wife decided to sleep with every sailor that comes into port then you would have no right to say that was immoral.
But the gay rights issues is about not trying to legistate morality.
Okay let me lay this bad boy out for you all ONE MORE TIME:
Conservatives don't actually care about Gay sex. We understand that since the beginning of time there have been two cavemen in the back of the cave that were 'more than friends.'
We only care because you insist on shoving it in our faces and making us care. So, Don't be shocked and angry when our reaction is negative.
You can go screw a knothole in a tree for all we care. The problem arises when a movement is started the population is told 10% of people actually are born wanting to screw trees, and a lobby is funded to pass legislation for special laws 'protecting' tree screwers form the discrimination of non-tree screwers.
Got it?
http://www.armchairsubversive.org/
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Yes, I think they should!!!
http://www.republicansexoffenders.com/
Rex,
When will the liberals learn, that the conservatives want to make homosexuality and keep it a sin.... if they get rid of the sin there goes the rest of the priests..... Instill the homophobia and shame early on so that the Priesthood can live on.........
Homosexuality is WRONG.... mentality keeps homosexual in the closet....
Just cause they are in the closet doesn't mean the aren't having sex... psst don't tell the conservatives that they have a don't ask don't tell policy.
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